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and miraculous rescue. if you are flying for this mother's day, major delays at the busiest airport in the world. they are blaming, you guessed it, the sequester. hello, everyone. high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. ow west, a special happy mother's day to all of you moms, including my wonderful mother. now to the feared reaction, and it's aftermath. at issue, newly disclosed e-mails about the white house editing talking points, leading up to the november election. here's senator john mccain. >> for the president's spokesman to say -- is a flat-out untruth. we now know any reference to act of terror, any reference to al qaeda were removed from the talking points. i would call it a cover-up. i would call it a cover-up to the extent there was willful

removal of information, which was obvious. it was obvious. >> let's go right to the white house. peter alexander standing by with us. with a good sunday to you. this topic was burning up the air wave. what else are we hearing about it. >> you heard from senator john mccain a moment ago. we heard from darrell issa, the representative from california who heads up the house oversight committee. he said basically the revisions to the e-mails are what we described as a manipulation of the cia to get the truth that you want. he referred to it saying it was clear from the get-go that terrorist activity was involved in the attacks in benghazi, those that left four americans, including the u.s. ambassador there dead. today we heard from mccain as well as senator kellie ayotte, saying they want further testimony from hillary clinton, then secretary of state. here was representative issa

earlier today, explaining the priorities to his committee. >> was the response correct? could it have been better? why weren't things at least tried or revved up to be tried. afterwards, how could you change talking points 12 times from what seems to be relatively right to what seems to be completely wrong? >> what i hear being assessed is all kinds of ulterior motives. i don't believe they existed. i don't think you can question that there was ma levelens on the part of the president, on the part of the secretary of state or anyone else. it was a very unfortunate incident that turned in to be, i think, a great and very painful learning experience. >> but when you -- >> reporter: for his part representative issa said that neither hillary clinton nor president obama are the targets of this investigation. nonetheless as we indicated, it has been said they do want hillary clinton to return for

further testimony. at least system republicans want that to happen. we did hear from issa, alex, saying he will send out deposition requests for the heads of that accountable review board. they're the ones behind the investigation that found -- really didn't focus on the talking points, but did find a series of issues that were wrong, and ultimately they say, the white house insists with the corrections, with the completion of that report, they have made in putting those things into place an acknowledgement there was no political activity to try to cover anything you will. >> i'm curious, from your vantage point, despite what people are saying, your just sense on how politically charged this is, versus just trying to get answers. or can you not keep the two from being inextricably intertwined? >> reporter: i think that's a good question. i think obviously this has become a political issue to some degree. the issue of security and how

that should be handled, i think everyone agrees that should have been done better, but then when it comes specifically to the talking points, that's where it becoming more gray and where a lot of the back and forth we are witnessing right now is taking place. right now it insists the input it had was exclusively from the national security staff, not from any political advisers. obviously we know this is some form of a political liability to the white house. at this point it's unclear how far that will go. dan pfeiffer was quoted, one of the senior advisers to the president, saying with the gop in charge they expect referring spefrl to partisan investigations, they expect situations like this. >> peter alexander, thank you. well, joining me with more is thomas pickering, chairman of the state's department accountability on benghazi. thank you very much for joining me. >> thank you. >> yes i spoke with congressman

pompempeii pompeiio, he set your interview got it wrong. how do you respond to that? >> well, we did, of course, see secretary clinton, her two deputies, the undersecretary, the assistant secretary, who we felt failed the performance of duty is not a low-level official. even gregory hicks mentioned the assistant secretary level. i've been in the state department 42 years, and i wouldn't consider it low level. >> so representative pompeiio is flat-out wrong? if that's the case how much does misinformation contribute to the gray area around all of this mess? >> well, quite a bit. i made it a point as chairman of the review board to read every press report that the state department could find for me, beginning from the first day until the 19th of december. i wanted to know what questions were being asked. i found a great of though in the

realm of fiction, unfortunately. people just seem to think that if they knew a bit about this kind of thing, they could make conjecture. that quickly turned into fact and that turned into repetition. that repetition turned into being a kind of holy writ, but we looked at each of these in detail. we produced a report that had 29 recommendations, a series of findings, and still i think the most thorough account of the events leading up to benghazi and what actually happened the night of the attacks. it doesn't mean we're perfect, it doesn't mean that other things can't come in, but up until now, i've listened very carefully, and i don't see there's anything there i would change, nothing there we haven't covered. >> the record found that the security at the benghazi compound was grossly inadequate, to use the words of admiral mike mullen. whose fault was that? >> first, those were the words of the written report, which

admiral mullen reported at the press conference. we made it clear that we found that four individuals made some decisions or participated in the decision-making process, that they failed in the performance of their duties. we recommended that two should leave their posts, and that has happened. >> all right. you mentioned gregory hicks. certainly one of the big moments was when he talked about the frustration of the special forces in tripoli, when they were told to stand down. tripoli about two to three hours from benghazi, but your report said the attack ebbed and flowed over about eight hours. what a military response really not possible? >> it was unfortunately not. it was very clear from both our review in which admiral mullen participated, and from general dempsey's testimony, that they do not believe there was the kind of relief or the sort of relief that would have made a

difference the night of the attack. within 24 hours of the attack or much less, 55 marines from rota in spain were this tripoli. all of our people were out of benghazi at roughly 6:30 in the morning of the 12th, following the night of the attacks. and we believe in fact that the conclusions that were made about the military relief and what could be done were exact and clear. you have to know that within an hour of the attack on the state department facility, a group of people were sent to benghazi from tripoli. people with experience in security, and in weapons. they were held at the airport for three hours, and then allowed to go to the annex facility, which just after their arrival was attacked by mortars the. >> you have made it very clear, sir, you do not believe there was a cover-up, but in your

opinion in the aftermath, did the white house act in the best interests of the american people or in the best interests of the administration? >> i did not study in detail the question of the talking points, and therefore, i have to tell you i reserve my judgment on that particular issue. had i been asked to study it in detail. it was not part of our report. i would certainly have an opinion for you. >> how about at the end of the day, overall we have four americans who died serving their country. has anything come out of they hearings that may prevent more deaths like that? >> we made 29 recommendation, including some substantial changes, including a significant addition to the building program to protect our people overseas. it was the one things that we focused the most on. secretary clinton, when she was secretary, said she would carry out our recommendations. secretary kerry has said he would do so. i believe that progress is being made.

obviously we look forward to hearing when they're ready to report about where they stand on these particular questions. i understand the inspector general of the foreign service is also looking into the implementation of our recommendations as well as the appropriate recommendations of all the 18 previous reports like ours. >> ambassador, how long do you expect the issue of benghazi to be an active one. how long do you think capitol hill will stay consumed with this? >> i actually have no idea. it seems to me to have during this period of timed now very much into the realm of political partisanship. >> ambassador thomas pickering, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you very much, alex. a pleasure to be with you. thank you. he's the country's newest congressman the today he's talking about his comeback vehicle toikt of torrie okay. this, won't take long will it? no, not at all. how many of these can we do on our budget?

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. a message selfgratitude. today was the first time we heard from amand berry, gina dejesus -- a spokesman from the three read this statement on their behalf. >> thank you so much for everything you're doing. i am so happy to be home with my family. jena says, quote -- i'm so happy to be home. i want to thank everyone for all your prayers. i just want time now to be with my family. michelle knight says -- thank you to everyone for your support and good wishes. i alternate healthy, happy and safe. >> joining mess is ron allen, very closely following this story. ron, good day to you. how are people in the community

showing support for these survivors? >> reporter: well, there's a lot of support, and the attorneys and representatives for the women said the best way to help them is to contribute to something called the cleveland courage fund, set up by some community activists a few days ago and is taking donations. there's a lot of concern here, especially for mish knight whoez case is a bit unique. here is her story. they marched for michelle knight, because they see her as the forgotten one. amanda berry with her daughter, and then jena dejesus, returned home to joyous reunions with family and friends. but knight left the hospital with no fanfare for a secret location. >> we just want to let michelle know she may have been forgotten, but now as a community we'll never forget her. >> reporter: now 32, she was the first of the three women to be abducted, a single mother who

authorities say they could not confirm was actually missing at the time. her disappearance never a huge news story like berry or dejesus. then and now for reasons that are unclear, relatives say knight is estranged from her family. meanwhile, the community struggles forward. workers busy sealing the house purchasers called a torture chamber, and erecting a high fence around it. a local official says there are credible threats of arson. >> we will do what we need to to protect that property, particularly, as i suspect, it's for evidentiary purposes. >> reporter: the curious and concerned come from piles to see where the unimaginable would happen. >> i would imagine, tear it down. who would want to live in a place like that after the tragedy and everything that went on in there. >> reporter: the house also a focal point for activists. >> know your neighbors. know 'em. >> reporter: imploring everyone to never let anything like this happen again. and to remember all four

survivors. >> for michelle. >> reporter: the good news is that in her statement, michelle knight made a statement she's happy and healthy and will reach out to her supporters when she's better. all three women said they really need privacy now. >> i can imagine. ron, thank you. we are learning new details about the i.r.s. targets tea party groups. the associated presses reporting a senior i.r.s. official knew back in 2011 that agents were giving extra scrutiny to conservative political groups. the agency apologized friday, but critics say that's not enough. here's susan collins of maine today. >> this is truly outrageous and contribute to the profound distrust that the american people have in government.

it is absolutely chilling that the i.r.s. was singling out conservative groups for extra review. >> joining me now political columnist for "the washington post" dana milbank and staff reporter for "mother jones" andy krull." we have mitch mcdonnell who is demanding a government wide review and investigation into the irs. how big is this? are we just scratching the surface here? >> well, obviously that's the concern, alex. this is a very significant thing action and they're you'll right to be calling for these investigations now. the benghazi case, which you were talking about earlier, that's become sort of a political food fight. this we can all agree on, the irs should not be targeting conservatives or anyone else. the administration cannot really just stay, it's a

quasi-independent agency. it's up to them, they've got to get really involved in the investigation, too, because this discredits everything. >> it's interesting. it doesn't seem to have any friends, even senator rand paul is saying government should never be used to bully people. but andy, you have the white house spokesman jay carney saying friday the i.r.s. does not take its marching orders from the white house, but will critics use it against the president? will we see attack ads next year? >> without a doubt. just like the ben ghazi controversy, you will see revenue in -- you name it, trying to pin this scandal, because that's really what it is action on the obama administration. you have senator susan coal nsz this morning demanding an apology from the president over this i.r.s. scandal. you're going to see it in ads in testimony, you'll see the i.r.s. dragged over the coals and the

obama administration connected to this at every turn. whether the obama administration has any knowledge, we don't know, hard to see how -- but they'll be linked the whole way through. >> dana, also today mark sanford is talking about his victory in south carolina's first district congressional seat. certainly a major comeback after he resigned as governor in disgrace after admitting to the affair. >> i would say you probably learned more in the valleys of life than the mountaintops. i learned whole new things i never contemplated before with regard to god's grace, with the reflected grace that comes through other humans that you walk with on a daily basis. i would say that i learned a lot about judgment, a lot about forgiveness. >> sounds like he's learned a lot about spiritual redemption. what do you think it was that propelled this comeback, do you think? >> i don't know about the role of god's grace in his comeback,

but there were practical things. one, it was a divided primary, and then let's face it, even with all of his baggage, this is a heavily republican district that democrats have no business representing. the very fact he was in jeopardy of losing that the polls were showing that showed just how much disfavor the voters had with him. ultimately they decided, look, we're going to vote or ideology here, you know, if -- for democrats, if there is a silver lining it's that mark sanford is now in congress. that will be an endless source of amusement for them. >> i'm going to be honest, i was talking with luke russert this week, and he covers capitol hill, and i asked him, what do you think about this? how is he going to be regarded when he hits congress? and he said, i don't think he's going to be taken seriously. i don't think he's going to be effective. if that's the case, are the people of the first district there in south carolina being well served by their representative in congress? what do you think the chances of

that are, dana? >> if being effective or being taken seriously is the standard, he will be in pretty good company, because very good representatives are actually that way. i suspect that if he becomes the constant joke, you may see a more formidable republican challenge to him, to try to get rid of that embarrassment. you can be sure that the democrats at least will find ways to keep bringing this up. you never know what he's going to say. >> what about your article? your latest is titled koch lengthed women's group takes challenge, so what is this all about? >> the point of the piece was that while the establishment republican base had more or less abandoned mark sanford there were a number of controversies, a number of missteps during the campaign that just concluded, he did get some key support this last week before the election, you know, a quarter of a million

from one of this is secretive shattoey conservative groups. he may have tripped up along the way, but right when it mattered in that last week, he got some key support from the conservative base, the big funders there who didn't abandon him quite like hi republican mainstream colleagues did. >> that may indeed put him over the top. good to talk with you guys, as always. thank. >> thanks. it's like the return of the glazeiers -- glaciers. like us to keep the conversation going. it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between

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welcome back. new today, a spokesperson for the three women who authorities say were rescued from the cleveland how of indescribable horror say they're happy, healthy and safe. a statement was red allowed just

a couple hours ago. >> they have asked in fact, have pleaded for privacy at this time, so they can continue to heal and reconnect with their families and their lives. you all care greatly about their well-being, so please respect this basic request. >> they are kidnapped by ariel castro. dna tests revealed that castro fathered a 6-year-old child with berry. he's being held on 8 million bail. my next guest is a young woman who not only survived the terror and trauma of an abduction, but is using her experience to help

others. 11 years old, and lishia fell victim to a man he met in an online chat room. for four days, he held her hostage in a virginia townhouse where he tortured and sexually assaulted her, where all she could do is pray to be rescued. fortunately she was rescued. today as fourer of the project, she crusades for internet and child safety, but helps train agents about absuction dural vival. alicia joins me live from atlanta. a big welcome to you. thank you for being here. >> good morning, alex. thank you. so when you see and read about these cases, it's unimaginable for most of us, but what goes through your mind? when you news broke, you could see their faces completely light

up with hope, and i thought, this could be my child. they got a new sense of hope. >> which is a once thing to have in the darkness they must all be living under. as you read about these cases, whether it's your own, or these young women in cleveland, do you find there is a common thread in terms of what made you and these other young women vulnerable? >> that's a difficult question. we're all different people. for me it was the internet. it was a very new science, especially with it being in the home, but there's really no answer. it's very sad and just awful when something hurts a child. >> it has said that you can't recall most of the horrors you

endured. is that always the case? do you expect it to be the case for these young women in cleveland? >> maybe. i repressed mine. i thought about going to therapy and trying to have but then my mind is protecting me and i don't want that to happen. it could be possible. it was put out by the justice department called "you're not alone." what have you learned? and do you think speaking out about this trauma has helped a lot of orders? >> that book is amazing. it's so many different stories, and we're all such different people. what helped us to cope, many of

those things are similar. there was really a camaraderie that we all survived very different circumstances. >> for me speaking out has been extremely cathartic. really whoever will listen. and turn it into something positive. that may save another child, so they don't have to go through what i did or my family did, or to support them if it happened. >> you credit having a very loving and supportive family with helping in your recovery. i know you're familiar with michelle knight. what do you thinks these young women, mish night and the others need now. >> to surround themselves with

young ones, maybe not for michelle night, and that's okay. when she's ready, she may contact them. that's up to her. >> to surround themselves with people who won't ask a million questions and will allow them to feel pain. that's okay. they will suffer, and that's okay, because they have been hurt, showing a moment of weakness does not mean they are weak. it's so important for people around them, and everyone will want to ask what happened? what happened? what happened? they don't ever have to share that. >> i appreciate you sharing with us, and i think you are a tremendous source of inspiration, so thank for your time. >> thank you very much. it was a xhentment in massachusetts at dartmouth, because it was the school attended by the suspect. security was beefed up.

in fact even before the security -- police presence was quite apparent. bags were checked, wrapped gifts were not aloud, but fortunately no problems to report. listen to that rousing reception at fenway park for one of those injured in the boston bombings. heather abbott taking to the mound to throw out that first pitch. the celebration was doubly special. she just got out of the hospital and was back hod to rhode island. she will undergo more rehab and receive a prosthetic leg. to the weather, it looks like special effects, but it's not. we have strong winds in minnesota. it's pushing sheets of ice onto the shore. look at that. damage is already being reported. take a listen. >> there it goes. oh, my god, their door's in. >> it's moving as fast as two

feet a minute. dyl dyl dylan dreyer is here with more. >> they had it period of gusty winds up to around 40 miles per hour crossing over the lake for a long period. that would create large waves, these waves have the melting i'd still on it. that's why the waves came on shore, some records said it just sounded like cracking glass outside now the windsing are easing, and the waves aren't as much of as issue. a bizarre situation, used to it out that way, and temperatures actually will still be on the cool side, where the

cool air is working back in. 48 degrees right now. where we did start off the day with a few showers. those are exiting the boston area right now. we have some heavier pockets the rain, and also the rain is back in the pacific northwest. a nice stretch of weather, but the heat is still on, with highs in the 80s and 90s. cooling back into the 50s tomorrow. then that heat moves in. look at denver tomorrow, 84 degrees. record-breaking temperatures out west, starting tomorrow. alec? >> thank you so much. i want to take a moment to wish all of the happy mother's day. i want to include my mom by telling her how much i love her and appreciate her all the way out in los angeles, but here's our question of the day.

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aspect of that. i'm an only child. my father was a great journalist. my mother is a great journalist today, an investigative reporter for "vanity fair." i remember talking at length about newt gingrich when the republican government shut down and president clinton back in the '90s. talked about elections frequently. he would talk to me before he would do "meet the press" vetting his guests and what he would ask. so i always sort of had an instinct about what kind of questions would make politicians uncomfortable. you receipt just the facts, man? so much of what we see here is spin. spin, spin, spin, spin. there are operatives, very high-paid in order to spin right past the media. we have to be the referees, the watchdogs. i think that was something instilled in me. is why is somebody telling this to you? what is really behind the words

here? at the end of the day it's about politics, positions. why is this person positioning themselves where they are. very few politicians say something just to say it. and that's the thing that we need to focus on exclusively, more so than anything else. >> what do you think is your father's greatest legacy, both as a broadcaster and as a father? >> i think as a father the lesson he taught me, you're always loved, but never entitled. i have a seen that sis "it's nice to be important. it's more important to be nice. "that's what i would say that's the lesson he put on. you see people in tv that has huge egos. that was something he never thought was acceptable. in terms of i think hi professional legacy, i think when he passed, a whole sort of era of common sense, middle of the road, straightforward

journalism, a lot of it went with him, in the sense that he was sort of like the last real format where people would face really aggressive authoritative questioning from -- where you weren't besieged by bloggers and the cynicism. i think it's the pre-twitter age, too, but if he has any professional legacy, he was someone who worked on behalf of the american people who try to hold elected leaders accountable, and would never take no for an answer, not allow them to spin, spin, spin. >> your professional legacy is far from being created, but might it include something with sports at some point? >> that's the question i always get. >> you had a sports radio show. >> it's my true love, my passion. one of the reasons why i haven't gotten involved in sports quite yet is because i love it too

much. one thing is when you cover something, you end up knowing too much about it, so you sort of lose that sort of childhood love you have. so that's one reason why i haven't necessarily gotten involved. i want to still be my athletes, the coaches and everyone else's heroes. >> wait, you can't ask you about terrell owens, was that like i'm getting t.o.? >> i was fired up. that's the best day date that ever happened. >> best date you ever had? >> for the white house correspondents dinner, yeah. he was fun to hang out. had el chatted you up. >> i do remember that. he was a nice guy, absolutely. >> maybe sports somewhere in the future. i interned at espn two hours. that was a time in my life. send me there.

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sunday morning talk shows. we've got the who said what and why? plus a new potentially damaging revelation about the i.r.s. scrutiny. just when did higher-ups find out about it? more of the dark side coming to light. new disturbing details about the alleged cleveland kidnapper, coming from his own family. he wants out, o.j. simpson is going to court in hopes of getting out of the prison. good day to all of you, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." let's get to what's happening out west. accusations of a cover-up are flying today as the fallout continues over the benghazi attacks. politicians are whether they edited talking points. republican congressman darrell issa defended the investigation on "meet the press." >> you're saying that administration officials are these political advisers to the

president, nonpolitical appointees, bullied the cia into saying what the political advisers in the white house wanted them to say? >> david, we're not making charges. >> you just said the cia had to back down and david petraeus said what the white house wanted to say. those are very serious. >> those are not the starting talking points, the ending talking point. we are not reaching every conclusion. the fact is we want the facts, we're entitled to the facts, the american people were effectively lied to, for a period of about a month. that's important to get right. >> joining me from the white house is nbc peter alexander. with a good saturday to you, my friend. what is the white house's response? >> reporter: you just heard from the house oversight commit aye darrell issa, saying he wants to hear more about this, there was more conversation today, that there should be further testimony. it was from mike rogers, who

heads up the intelligence committee, saying there will be more whistle-blowers. the white house i think, any outside observer would suggest that the white house, the administration didn't handle very well the process after that attack most certainly, in specific refers to the 12 separate talking points with acsakeses that the administration helped basically water them down before they were produced publicly, but the administration insists it was exclusively natural security staff from the white house that was involved in eightering those talking points or input provided to help change those talking points again directed toward hillary clinton. there were claims that she needs to come back and further testify. diane fine spy. >> it was in the last of a political campaign.

we've got through all of this, and my concern is when hillary clinton's name is mentioned 32 times in -- will discredit the secretary of state who has very high popularity and may well be a candidate for president. i units republican had a grievance, because this happened a month before the election. every effort has been made to turn it into something diabolical. i don'ts that. >> reporter: and said that nonsense that hillary clinton should not -- it was rand paul from kentucky suggested that it was a dereliction of duty and should reinclude her from holding any higher office.

the recommendations are being put into effect going forward. >> interesting fast-finding notwithstanding, and everyone on both sides watts -- so far with senator jack reed, the democrat who said this was not a cover-up. it was james inhofe, the republican from oklahoma, who brought up what he referred to as the "i" word. there's great across the board.

so from peter to my panel, political reporter now for "the washington post"ened and sheaf thelma. welcome to both of you. >> so aaron, i'm going to begin with you. lots of accusations, lots of finger pointings going on. what does it immediate to do going forward? >> it's clear there were mistake made. the administration cleatly is dealing with a very difficult situation. we've now got a very skeptical press corporation, asking tough questions, and so it's a very tough situation for them right now. i think republicans need to be cautious here. the more that democrats can say it's a political witch-hunt i

think distracts from very valid questions. >> do you think they may have done that thus far? it does gives off the sense about hillary clinton and trying to derail aspirations if she does have them. >> hillary clinton did not get mentioned a lot. it wasn't until the end she became a major focal point. on some level it's. steve, you're a very seasoned reporter. i want your sense of where you this i the investigation goes from here. how far is this going to go?

>> i think pretty much everyone is starting to move past the first few questions, were there mistakes in the handling of the security beforehand. could they have acted sooner that night. now a lot of talk, particularly with the news stories. who continues to say they were only changed once in one section. that seems to be not the case, and i think there will be a lot more questions about that. how far does it go? on the facts we don't know, because we don't know the answers to all those questions. how far it goes is 2016. are we going to see attack ads, and basically you've just told me in 2016 we will. . as aaron mentioned, hillary clinton, you know, the video of

her at the first round of congressional hearings, what does it matter now? that video will be showed millions of times by the caucuses. >> don't you believe that video was taken out of the context? that was putting together an ad that takes what she says, or the entire paragraph, right? in any context it will be used against her. i'm not saying it's right or wrong. you know, it's interesting, because congressman issa may call her back, and she may have a second bite at that apple. >> i would say also -- i think that that is going to be a problem for them. she was basically making the remark it didn't matter the process -- i think that republicans have a very credible case to make that it does in

fact matter because they want to avoid anything like this from happening again. i think that's a problematic quote. in a hearing in which we initially thought they didn't lay a hand on her. >> can you quickly explain how? >> sure, this is the first time it's the house republicans campaign committee, put up a fund-raising web page, saying we're going after obama and benghazi. it has a picture of hillary clinton right on the donation form, so i think republicans have reached a level where they feel comfortable with this. we're seeing the likes of marco rubio go after this, house speaker john boehner talking about this issue. they field like they have the credibility on this right now, to really go after it, raise money off of it. i think that's a reflection of the number of shoes we've seen drop. >> i was going to ask you about the irs issues, but we'll have to bring you another time.

thank you so much. now to the latest on the twin car bombings in turkey that happened on a town on the border with syria. despite allegations by turkey, syria denies it had anything to do with the athat tacks. those bombings occurred in a town that's become a haven for syrian refugees and rebels. he may be known as his royal highness back in great britain, but today in colorado prince harry is scoring points for his down-to-earth demeanor. he's lending a helping hands in more ways than one at the warrior games where he's showing good sportsmanship, and a great sense of humor, even stealing time out to charm missy franklin. joining me now is nbc's special correspondent ben fog 8. so, ben, we hear that -- what's he been doing and what's his agenda today? >> reporter: good morning, alex. well, prince harry is here on the second stop of his u.s.

tour. here in colorado, the prince is soldiering on to bring sustains to a cause very close to his hearty. he's captain wales, his main reason for being in the usa, a warriors games, a competition for injured soldiers, the focus of the prince's trip. >> i think he wanted to highlight it. he said we have to major the schedule work. >> reporter: when speaking about his willingness to participate after he first heard about the games last year -- >> a year ago i was in washington on the ambassador's lawn to plant a tree, which is what most of our family does nowadays. >> and prince charming toward's usa misty may traynor. along with par olympian and

former naval officer bradley snyder, and olympic gold medal winner missy franklin, who celebrated her 18th birthday the night before at an event with the prince. did prince heart we wish you a birthday? >> he did. he did. later the prince court for a game of volley ball. and a game of chase. the three-time gold medal winner from beach volley ball. to name the british team to a victory over the u.s. hosts in sitting volley ball. >> reporter: as you can see behind millennium, they're just gearing up for these cycling event. prince harry is due to arrive to start the race before taking a tour of the air force academy where we are now, taking in a game of football and handing out the medals. he'll then be heading east to continue his tour in new york, new jersey, and connecticut. alex, back to you. >> we will look forward to having him on our side of the

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a xhilg portrait today of the man accused of kidnapping and repeatedly raping three women. according to a new article from "the washington post," ariel castro had a penchant for salsa music and allegedly beating his exbif. it also says relatives were aware he had a dark side and vicious streak as far back as the early '90s. joining me of the writer of the

article. manuel, thanks for joining me. >> good to see you too. what disturbed you most? >> it was chilling, and really heartbreaking to talk to the family of his common-law bif. he would do weird things, like he had a mannequin, and he would jump out and scare the kids with this mannequin that was very realistic and flesh-colored. they came to talk about the house, that infamous house on seymour avenue as the prison house. the prison house. when i heard that, it stopped me in my tracks. >> what do you think led them to call it that. as far as we know, people were not allowed inside that house much, or does that not included relatives? were 24th allowed. >> you know, in the years before this abduction took place, sometimes family members would go over there. he was in a long-term relationship with a woman nailed

grimilda figure rhoa. he would nail the windows shut, and you got a hint of the psychological abuse, the power playing that he would later be accused of playing with these girls that he had kidnapped. he would do things like leave the house, sneak back into the basement, monitor the phone calls, and if she called anybody, run upstairs and just beat her viciously. so it was a way that he had of controlling women and dom nearing behavior that really foreshadowed what he's accused of now. >> so the family calling it the prison house, and people seeing this is a guy he's nailing windows shut, boarding -- don't you find it odd that no one suspected anything was going on inside?

>> there are a lot of what-ifs in this case. people knew that he was an abuser. he common-law wife was pushed down the stairs, 14 steps. i walked up those very same steps, very steep. it was awful to stand at the top of the stairs and look down. he dislocated both 6 her shoulders. he broke her ribs. the police were called many, many times, but as with many domestic abuse cases, these things drag on for years and years and years. and ariel castro was able to continue hurting this woman and give us a glimpse of what he is now accused of doing in the present. >> here allegati's something th very interesting, the missed clues, code of silence, a unwillingness to point fingers.

can you explain that? >> this was a jaw dropper for me. ariel castro was spotted around the neighborhood with the little girl who we now have learned was the child her fathered with amanda berry. he would walk around the neighborhood openly with her, holding her hand, taking her to the park. i spoke with people who live right by the park, and also wondered, who is this little girl? where is she? we know he doesn't have a child, but they were either embarrassed or afraid to ask. this sense of not being able to ask the hard questions about what was going on, and a feeling also of mistrust of authorities in that neighborhood. this is a neighborhood that could be very insular at times, and they did not trust the police. often they were dealing with

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a task force in newtown, connecticut has voted unanimously to tear down the elementary school and rebuild on the same site. the decision followed often emotional hearings, as the task force struggled to decide what to do with the site of the december 14th shooting. joining me is davis donovan, local editor for "the newtown patch." have any of the victims' families spoken out? what's their opinion of what's happening? >> you know, as a recent meeting, there were five of these task force meetings at the penultimate meeting about two weeks ago, one of the victims' parents did speak and said the one thing i have asked is for the school to be razed. how about the other newtown residents? >> i can't say there's in consensus opinion among any group in newtown. they are very diverse pins. and of course, many of the task

force members and residents in new town have said there is no perfect solution. >> is anyone wondering whether put agnew building in place will be such? and were think any arguments for moving the school? >> there were some considerations for moving the school. the task force looked at a series of plans put together by local experts. quite a few sites were considered. a smaller number were considered a little more in detail. sites were ruled out for a variety of reasons, some the traffic situation would have been too difficult. some were mostly water. so eventually it came down to a smaller number of sites to consider. one was just down the road on riverside road. there were some issues with that site that the task force talked out friday night, and decided

that -- they decided unanimously to move ahead with what we all know now, the tearing down of the school. >> building it will cost around $47 million, they're saying. price covering for that is what? covered by the state? federal government? who will pay for this? >> from the beginning of this discussion, the first selectman opened the discussion, and she said the same thing -- we understand from federal and state authorities, and we trust that the funds will be covered in part or in whole. >> okay. look, this days is something that people can never really recover from, but how is the town doing almost five months later now? >> well, if you go through the town, go down main street, go to the general store, go to the sandy hook deli in the heart of sandy hook, i'm sure in the coming days you'll be able to go to a wonderful new coffee shop, but a little beside the point. any of these public gathering places, where people come to sit

down, have a cup of coffee, people are talking this out. as for closure or healing, when i guess is, you know, what we're looking for, people are -- people are still looking for that, but it's an individual process. everyone i'm talked to have said we worked through it as a community, but we heal at different rates. >> well, my heart goes out to the folks. on a personal note, i am still haunted by all of that day. so for those even far more closely connected, well, god bless. davis donovan, thank you so much, joining us from "the newtown patch." jodi arias is under sigh side watch after announcing she preferred to get the death penalty. an alleged bomb threat forced police to clear out the courthouse. the jurors don't come back until wednesday before the penalty phase will begin.

>> joining us to break down the next phase, defense attorney and former prosecutor, and a good friend to is here. let's get a start with her request for the death penalty. with this girl, is they trying manipulation? is she finally telling the truth? >> the way she's been painted obviously you think is she manipulating it? >> but the respect are not supposed to be reading the newspapers, so often it's not unusual for salesmen facing to often say i prefer the death penalty. that is not uncommon. the common part is after they spend ten or 12 years on death row is when they change their minds. >> you know the minds of jurors, do you think they'll look at this -- they say death by some accounts would be an easier out than spending the rest of her life. look how young she is. >> the problem is most jurors --

they don't like the death penalty. we're taught in most religions thou shalt not kill. it doesn't say except by the government. the penalty really should be reserved for heinous crimes with dismemberment, tortures and multiple deaths, so this is unusual in the fact that it's a boyfriend. 500 people get murdered in arizona. not all of them get the death penalty, so the prosecutor choosing the death penalty i think probably was a bit inappropriate, i have to say, because it usually is reserved for heinous crimes. >> but during this next phase, is there new evidence introduced? >> yeah, you can have new evidence. a lot of times all those gory, horrible pictures will now by allowed in. >> don't they prejudice of jury? >> they've already found her guilty. the standard is, was that cruel? and they have for found it

beyond a reasonable doubt. you're allows to let in a lot of evidence that would not, and then the prosecutor does the aggravating factors. . you can hear from her priest, her mom, anyone who will put some kind of positive spin to spare her life. you know, again, this is death, as americans sometimes, we get a bit desenses advertised. but you're taking someone's life. >> i remember early in my career, i was in a courtroom when they announced death for a man who had been found guilty of murder, just chill, whether you feel he warrants it or not, it is a chilling thing to hear that. when you say the standard by which it is judged is whether there was cruel. what are they going to think about a woman who stabbed multiple times, slit a throat, shot in the head, cruel? >> well, let's be realistic. every murder is cruel.

every murder, especially if it's your brother or sister, yaw, it's cruel. so the strd isself comes down to the prosecute owes. because murder is murder. with that on 8 table, what you do you think is the likelihood? >> people normally don't put women in arizona, the 122 are men, three are women. it's very unusual. and again it's usually -- it's not unusual in the sense he got stabbed, he was murder, and murder is cruel. it's not presented all that many times. so, it will be interesting. >> very. thank you so much. the benghazi blame game. ♪

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it is time for the big three. landmark ruling questions, and this much read. editor in chief of national journal's hotline action and msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney adviser robert traynham. thanks, guys for joining me. >> happy mother's day. >> thank you. i appreciate that. retch contributor ed rogers writes this. here's the quote. it's just part of the routine. it is powered by -- i don't see and politically it has reached on point the diminishing returns. your reaction to that is?

>> let's remember four americans did die. and jay carney, the white house press secretary, in terms of the editing, so republicans and also all members of congress and most importantly americans have the right to make sure this has been thoroughly investigated. should this be political? absolutely not. the congress does have the right to ask they tough questions. >> representative,d and of course he's seen as a potential contenter. here's what he said about hillary clinton. >> when your people on the ground, military people and state department people are asking for more help, they're asking for security, they're pleading for security, and they got nothing, it was inexcusable. it was a dereliction of duty,

and it should preclude her from holding higher office. >> former secretary of state adamantly denying she has any role in the talking points. what kind of impact, rather, do you think benghazi could have on secretary clinton if she deciding to run. will this haunt her? >> i don't think that's the most important issue. here we did have a consequence lat that wanted more security, and the state department denied it in a pretty bad neighborhood of the world. i also agree that consequence has the absolute right and responsibility to continue with the investigation, but i think that rand paul speaking about it in the wrong way. here we have an individual, where didn't even shoat to present the cut that might have gotten to protect that. before he holes of a mirror, i think he needs to have held it up to himself, saying maybe i

should have been accountable. if this that mrs. clinton is held accountable, so be it, but at the same time i think this speaks more about rand paul of what he said than secretary clinton. okay. reed, i want to take a look at legacy, widely recognized that second-term presidents have some stumbling points. clinton, of course, had monday can lewinsky, iraq, the great recession, so with benghazi, wand now this i.r.s. scandal, do you think this is shaping up to be a second-term curse for obama? >> talk about a bad week for the white house. add on the i.r.s. spying on tea

party groups, and this benghazi situation, and i think you have to start to wonder about the second term. remember katrina hit in august of 2005, a couple months after the point we are at in the second term. i remember a former bush administration official telling me long ago they were having staff problems, long after robert left. i said, are you guys on the b team? and they said, no we're on the vertical team. the obama administration is going to have some difficulties, you know, staffing is the white house with top-tier really smart officials, because those officials they went through in the first five and eventually six years get tired and burned out. so this is the cycle, this is the big problem that any second-term white house faces. i think the obama folks are getting the taste of it. >> robert appreciated that. i'm just speaking for him. congressman says tack, our next

topic is the landmark rulings. ruth bader ginsberg spoke yet say she supports a woman's right to choose, however she added roe v. wade might have done more harm than good. your thoughts on that? >> well, i think justice ginsberg has a point here. the judicial branch most affects in the long term the character of america. even our presidential decision in bush versus gore went there, and they are not eletted. that said i don't think it should be an absolute that the supreme court does not, remember that we are a nation of laws, not of men, uphold what is right in the law. we are a nation of individual rights. until those rights are held by law, we can't achieve our perfect union. so when you have a case like

brown versus board of education, where african-americans got a separate but equal education. if that supreme court had not made that change, thain we could potentially not have a complete change, so in this case, this was about privacy rights. >> robert, very quickly, the justice has said the anger over the ruling has fueled the state-by-state campaign. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. in reaction to roe versus wade, but what's also interesting is judicial restraint. if they overreach too, too much, that's when the states come in. so there needs to be some judicial restraint and balance. >> gentlemen, sit tight there.

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a new school from "saturday night live" that begging the question when the benghazi hearings get better ratings with your sensational witnesses like jodi arias. you be the judge. >> when were you first made aware that our consulate was under attack? >> i guess this morning. >> i see. >> is it still going on? >> not now. no, it happened last september, but my -- >> who do you think did it? >> well, we know who did it. ansar el sharia. >> if you know who did it, then why are you holding these hearings? >> ms. arias, the point of the hearing is we ask the questions and you answer them. >> oh, i'm sorry. >> that's all right.

>> does anyone else have a question for this witness? anyone? okay. well, thank you for coming. >> um -- you bet. >> that story you told about your boyfriend attacking you, that was b.s. right? >> oh, totally. he never laid a hand on me. >> yeah. sounded fishy to me. >> you and the jury. [ laughter ] >> got to love "snl." well, we're back with the big three for this week's must read. i'll begin with you, reid. what's yours? >> well, we got this sort of gift this week when the u.s. census bureau released a trove of data about the 2012 elections including not only how many people voted and sort of break downing the racial demographics and really highlighting the big changing electorate, also how people vote. how people register to vote. i found it interesting. we put up a post on hot line, our blog, looking at just how people register to vote. you wouldn't be surprised that older folks tend to register at

government offices. younger at the dmv and younger folks ten timing more likely to use online registration. watch that as more states develop online registration techniques. >> a lot of stuff we talked about. i will tleread that. and respond to the question about ruth bader ginsburg. quick, if you can. >> yeah. we were going to talk about the same thing happening in gay marriage, and it's interesting to see that the gay marriage backers for a long time have pursued this sort of court strategy trying to get laws changed through the courts rather than in the states. however, over the last several year, a sea change of opinion and now the political side is working a lot better than the court side is. that's fascinating to watch even as this case continues through the supreme court. >> point well taken. representative sestak, your must read? >> millennials. the me, me, me generation in "time" magazine this week. i'm a believer in the youth of america. this is about our young

citizens, and you know, alex, an aircraft carrier, 5,000 sailors, average age 19 1/2. they one a nuclear reactor that powers that small city at sea. fix your plane before you get in and no pilot asks the question, salute that 19-year-old and off you go over to afghanistan. a national treasure with must most cherish. this article, however, talks about this generation as being narcissistic involved in their iphone, i pads and facebooks, it's all about me, me, me, but yet embodied somewhere within this article you find the real nuggets of what they really should be looking at. this is a young generation that doesn't resent authority, doesn't respect it. it's not of the establishment, outside of it. establishment let them down badly. that's the strength of this generation. they will not be of the establishment. >> sounds like a great read. robert, quickly, yours? >> the political second-term blues. obama is obviously going through it right about now. a must-read. everyone take a look at it. >> appreciate that. gentlemen, so good to see

all three of you. good back to your families if you have them and the kids. >> happy mother's day, alex. >> thank you. a wrap-up of this hour. this edition of "weekends with alex witt." all you moms, have a great one. i love you, to my mom. thank you so much. craig melvyn is up in one hour after "meet the press." everything. everything. everything. everything. everything? [ all ] everything? yup! with the new staples rewards program you get 5% back on everything. everything? everything. [ male announcer ] the new staples rewards program. get free shipping and 5% back on everything your business needs. that was easy.

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